Originally Posted by Tom Bombadil
As BD pointed out, those steel frame recommendations were "traditional" geometry. Up to now, George, you've been looking at compact geometry bikes. Are you thinking of going over to a traditional design now?
By traditional, I meant tried and true head and seat tube angles and resulting predictable and comfortable handling. Traditions get that way for a reason, they work.
Actually, the Salsa Casseroll has a sloping top tube, as does the Soma Smoothie (but not the Smoothie ES).