I think it's just been a lucky spring (though pouring rain the last 2 days), but I've only put triflow on my new chain twice in 1200 miles. I was lubing up at least weekly during the winter (verrrrrrrrrry rainy). Tried this colossaly messy homebrew mixing auto trans fluid w/ 10w30or40. That could be like Phil's, I don't know. Wasn't completely tenacious, found a lot all over the rest of the bike too. Going to see how well the triflow does during this next rainy season, maybe can retire my oil cans...