Originally Posted by
CrimsonKarter21
Besides the thread topic, does anyone know the difference between DT Swiss Champion spokes in the old red/white box compared to the newer green/black/white box?
They should be identical. However, DT varies somewhat the length of the 2.0 mm section at each end and you might find them somewhat different. This doesn't really matter too much.
The labels you have are both recent enough that they should have the same elbow length, but note that DT for a while changed the elbow length to facilitate machine building (the length increased slightly). If your spoke doesn't seat tightly in the spoke hole when put in position, you should get some DT spoke washers and use them under the spoke heads. Otherwise they tend to twist around a lot, break sooner, and chew up the spoke holes more. Dura Ace track hub flanges tend to be relatively thin and usually are benefited by the spoke washers anyway.