Originally Posted by redfooj
bikes and cars are different... bikes turn by lean.. cars turn by slip angles... they learn the opposite way vs bikes....
bike countersteering is subconscious
countersteering in car, in most context, is correcting oversteer
True, but both invlove moving the wheel the opposite way that most would assume.
As far as high speed car cornering, you can have a perfect line, but still have slip...so countersteering is crucial for them.
As far as me on my bike, I'm pretty sure I countersteer. I'm more of one of those guys that stnads semi upright while allowing my bike to lean more...so I do get some outward motion on the handlebars.