Old 06-10-04 | 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by tslugmo

Anyway, the one thing I seemed to notice was that the 4300 shifted a bit more smoothly than the Hardrock. This would make sense, right, since the 4300 has Alivio rear derailleur and the Hardrock has the Acera rear derailleur? According to what I've read on this site, the Alivio is slightly higher quality than the Acera, so I'm wondering if this is what I'm experiencing, or if this difference should be barely noticeable, and perhaps due to tuning? Finally, if the smooth shifting is what's keeping me from getting the Hardrock, would dropping another $10 on an Alivio rear derailleur on ebay make these bikes shift identically? Would dropping ~$20 on a Deore rear derailleur be even better? Shifting smoothness is a high priority for me, and I'm coming off of my old-ass Diamond Back with Deore LX shifters and derailleurs. Those are too beat up now to transfer over, but I did get used to pretty smooth shifts. Is there more to rear shifting smoothness than the rear derailleur?

Also, I read on this forum that the crankset on the Hardrock is superior to the 4300. What does that mean to me? It's less likely to break? Do you notice a difference in ride quality?

Thanks for your help, I hope to pick a bike by tomorrow! How exciting!

-tslug
I think that any kind of noticable shifting differences between the Alivio, and Acera would be due to minor adjustment, since they are pretty close in quality. I wouldn't let shift quality influence your choice because you can always adjust the der, OR, in the worst case, upgrade it if you had to. Also, maybe the cable routing on the two frames is different? I don't know much about the cranks on those bikes, but again, I wouldn't let that influence my choice either. Go with your gut instinct, and have fun...
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