It always seems to come back to that freakin' PIKE. I guess I'm going to seriously consider it due to the rash of wonderful reviews I keep hearing. It's about time I bite the bullet and add 1/2lb to my bike and quit crying about it. The 20mm does sound nice. I did notice a little flex on my last ride with my Vanilla. I hadn't really ever noticed it before, but I'll probably feel it all the time now.