Thanks for your patience, slcpunk21. I'm comparing 2 frames that feel comparable to me, not an S-Works and a Huffy. Don't worry, you'll be rid of my annoying newbie buying questions shortly, as I'll buy within 24 hours. Then you'll only be faced with my annoying newbie riding questions. I hope you'll understand that I won't know everything you know about biking instantly, just from reading a good number of posts on this forum. At least I'll admit that, and if people are annoyed by my questions, they can ignore them, and we'll all survive somehow.