A week or so ago we got a lot of rain and I went out and laid down a couple block long skids after it stopped (the streets were still really wet) and I was very disappointed to find a nearly bald tire the next morning, and I rarely skid. This was on the red speediums. Well, maybe it's not nearly bald, but it's noticably worn after just one night of wet street skidding, and that's with 17 skid patches. Everwears are next ftw.