Originally Posted by
LowCel
I originally bought 404 clinchers for race wheels. Later on I decided that since some of my races involve climbing that I really should have gone for the lighter tubular wheels. By doing so I lost my butt by selling a pair of 404 clinchers with around 300 miles on them.

Gotcha. I just bought tubs for the first time, for similar reasons. Sucks that you had to lose your shirt on those. Sorry about that.