camel bak = like, but not for longrides
handlebar bag = never figured out what i would use it for if i had a camel bak
result... the first (well most likely not) camel bar. bladder in the handlebar bag, food, leatherman, wallet, and map... works like a charm (its been 4 days and 510km and its still working great)
i suggest putting your water bladder in your handlebar bag (if you are like me and prefer drinking from the bag and not a bottle)