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Old 08-20-07 | 09:06 PM
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ConstantRider
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Originally Posted by ddaversa
Anyone checking out this thread live in the Bay Area? I'd love to get some input from folks who have done this program option before.
Dave
Where in the city did this happen, Dave?

In the Presidio last week, U.S. Park Service police were ticketing cyclists who failed to come to a complete stop at a four-way intersection.

It worked like this: One officer had his car parked alongside the side of a building near the intersection. If he observed a cyclist not coming to a complete stop at the intersection, he radioed that info to two other officers further down the hill. Those officers would then stop the cyclist and issue a ticket.

Yes, I was one of those who got a ticket.

The intersection is on a downhill grade, and there were no cars there waiting, so I basically slowed to what I would describe as a "functional stop" -- I didn't unclip and put my foot down, but I braked to a point where my forward progress was negligible for at least a couple of seconds.

When the officers down the hill waved me over and told me I had run a stop sign, I thought maybe there was a new sign closer to where they were I had completely missed. No, they meant the one further up the hill.

I knew that I hadn't put a foot down, but I decided to ride back to the first officer and ask why he gave me a ticket. Basically, he said there was only one kind of stop -- a complete stop -- and that I had not come to a complete stop.

As we were talking, another cyclist -- a woman with panniers on a hybrid -- rolls very slowly through the stop sign. I watch the officer call her in. I then asked him if they were ticketing cars too. He said they were ticketing all vehicles that didn't come to a complete stop.

About 30 seconds after that, a car rolls through the intersection without coming to a complete stop. "Are you going to ticket that car?" I asked.

"I didn't see it," the officer replied.

I replied, "OK, well, I'm just going to hang out here a bit and watch the intersection with you."

The officer didn't reply. Then he made a call on his radio, said something I didn't catch, and drove away.

I was just doing loops through the Presidio that day, so at that point I continued my ride. Fifteen or twenty minutes later, I was back at the spot where the first officer had been, and now there was a new officer there. Actually, it's one of the ones from further down the hill.

I started watching the intersection again. Sure enough, a car rolls through the stop sign.

"Are you going to ticket that car?" I ask.

The new officer says, "I didn't see it. I was talking on my radio."

Another minute passes. Another car rolls through the intersection. (There is a lot more car traffic than bike traffic there. Most of the cars came to a complete stop, but cars that didn't were hardly rare. In ten minutes or so of watching, I observed at least four that rolled through pretty blatantly.)

"What about that one?" I asked.

The second cop fired up his engine and drove away.

I am frustrated by what appeared to be the selective enforcement in effect, and am interested if anyone else has had similar experiences, especially if they occured in the Presidio...
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