Originally Posted by Simoni

Please...these frames are about the level of a Trek 1000 or 1500. Straight seat stays, stiff, nasty, little compliance to keep your back from being the shock absorber. And, yeah, I've ridden them. Compared to an aluminum Cannondale, it's like comparing a Ford Taurus to a Ferrari.

This is what makes me LMAO about these threads. It's so evident that the vast majority of you wouldn't know a high end frame and how it feels versus this stuff if it bit you in the @$$.