A couple years ago I tried Etxe Ondo shorts, and they are the best. No diaper feel, chamois seems thin, but they work really well. They are a bit expensive, but they are so much better than everything else I've tried, I'd rather save up for a couple of pairs of those than have twice as many of any other brand. There are some good sales on Etxe Ondo right now at Colorado Cyclist and Terry, so it's a good time to try them. They have shorts and bibs, love them both.