I am looking at the reload Civilian and the Seagull Pigeon. I do not know anyone that is getting a seagull bag until mid September. so i can't try these out, and the reload civilian is a tough one to find too.

But, I am creating a custom design and would like to get some input on which bag i should choose. what are the advantages and disadvantages of both (not thinking about price). and if there is another contender i should look at, let me know.

Me: I am not a messenger, but i am commuting to school and work everyday. I will sometimes have some heavy books and sometimes my laptop. so it needs to be comfortable when it is full, and not (too) bulky when empty.