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Old 08-24-07 | 07:38 AM
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From: Fredrock
Originally Posted by shapelike
It's basic 4130 ... the stays aren't even butted and you have to jump through hoops to get a rear brake set up. It's not worth the price they charge.
What companies are offering a frame and fork for under $400 that use butted stays?
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