Originally Posted by
John E
Check out the scarring on the bottoms of the chainstays and don't ever again ask me why I detest kickstands.

And unfortunately, I've got to take some of the blame for crushed tubing.

Back when I worked at the shop, customers would constantly come in annoyed because their sidestands would be clicking against the crank arm - so the owner instructed us to CLAMP THE D**N THINGS DOWN!
Which meant crushed tubes.
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Syke
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