Yes I would agree with some of your points. Look at professioanl power lifters or those guys that compete in the world's strongest man competitions. Alot of those guys look real fat but they are in great shape. Both cardio and muscle wise. Then on the filp side look at pro cyclists or runners. Some of these athletes look amaciated! Then there are some female models that are cool to look at but are unhealthy because of their own personal narcisism. I see your point good observation.