I do a lot of touring and just plain riding as well as in a car. I have yet to see a bright LED, that's not to say their not out there; but their just too expensive for most riders to afford so their not being bought like halogen's are. In fact I rarely see a HID light!!! Again money plays into the equation. 95% of the lights I see on the road are dim halogen or LED lights and both styles are self contained battery units because they are the cheapest, followed by 3% brighter halogen with seperate battery, and 1% HID, and 1% generator lights that are also very dim in appearance. Heck, most cyclists I see don't even use a light!! My local LBS's, of which there are 6, don't even stock HID or the expensive brighter LED's because they cost too much and no wants to pay the money thus their special order only. I find it odd that someone will spend $5,000 on a bike either not use a light at all or buy a $30 dim light.