Originally Posted by
CdCf
freako, what is your problem?
At least for Sweden, almost all stolen bikes were either not locked at all, locked with a cheap cable lock, locked only to themselves (good lock or bad doesn't matter much in that situation) or locked with a good lock to something that was easy to cut (thin wire fence, for example). The number of thefts here of bikes locked to a secure bike stand with a hardened steel D-lock is vanishingly small. Most of those cases were bikes locked in secluded places during the night, and the typical method of breaking the locks is by either cutting through it with power tools or using a hydraulic jack.
The number of bike thefts where locks have been picked is so low that it's not in the statistics.
Maybe it's different where you live.
You right!
But that wasn't my arguement. My arguement was whether or not a decent lock and be overcomed and the methods use, to which I replied picking is increasing as the method of choice because breaking locks have become increasingly difficult; although if you looked at my above web sites, one of them tells you how you can easily break an expensive U-Lock from Kryto. And I mentioned the hydraulic jack situation as well.
Most people buy inexpensive locks thinking no one will steal their bikes, or lock the bike up improperly; but it only takes one time before they learn their lesson!
I ride my bikes to sort of places all the time and only lock them with a Abus lock and a thick cable...THAT'S IT!!! But, I park and lock the bikes in very high traffic areas and only in daylight and never had a bike stolen in over 40 years of doing this. I did have a bike stolen once when someone broke into my house through a window about 20 years ago but that's not really the same issue.