[QUOTE=mikepoole;5197332]Been through one of these myself about two years ago- maybe they're coming back around...
the second chance offer was definitely not from the real seller- I kept with it for a while to get as much info before reporting without giving up any info of my own... googled payment address- it was some shady address of a import/export company

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It's really hard to run this scam now, because:
1. On auctions over a certain amount (usually $200), the identities of under bidders are not made available to anyone other than the seller, and
2. eBay has cut down on the ability of anyone other than the seller to contact bidders through eBay. I encountered this recently when I went to contact a member and was told I couldn't as I didn't have any recent or open transactions with that member. I also found that as a seller, I can no longer send more than one response to a question about my item. I used to always send a quick message and say, "I'll get the answer to your question and get back to you ASAP," but discovered I now only get one shot at contacting someone who has posed a question. Frankly, eBay is getting increasingly stressful for both buyers and sellers.
So don't respond to anyone who hasn't contacted you through eBay, and you can't get second-chance scammed, though you can encounter a seller using a shill.
And I will say that there are still lots of scrupulous eBay sellers of vintage bike items out there, saying that "clean" auctions for desirable items are "rare" is just way overstated and unfair.