Truth is, I dunno Lowell but don't you wish...

I wouldn't knock the real designs you presented in your response but what's yours? What's vaporware? Where is your motor mounted on your 20k mile rig?

20,000 miles, eh? yeah right - that would be how many tires? V brakes right? How many battery packs? I've seen some divas in my day but you take the prize...