Yeah, it's amusing, but it's also kinda sad. This is a good forum. I find a lot of positive, encouraging, energy here. There is a lot of negativity here, but it's not serious. This thread started out by proposing an innocuous alternate to the term "cagers..." well look, I know, it's all in good fun. But we're proposing a term by which we can take a bunch of people and reduce them to one characteristic... is that good fun? Name-calling is a nasty child's idea of fun.