I think Pas Velo is a great shop. I bought my ICE frame from Harach and got a great deal. He was impressed when I told him I was taking the frame to my LBS ,Universal Cycles," to be built up. He said that he said he wished he had loyal customers like me. Get on their mailing list. They have 2 fantastic sales a year. Reminds me of the sales Circle Cycle used to have. 30%-50% off.