Allen, I have no idea where the server is, and have nothing to do with it, or the search function. I know I can never replace Joe, but too many people on here don't appreciate me, or that fact that KB could have ended up in my place.

I also know that Civic bikes doesn't carry Giant, and the Trek would cost him a pretty penny more than the bike he's looking at. Just so everyone is aware, the average bike shop in Australia also charges about double what a US shop would charge. A pair of Electra cruisers - $1,200 at Civic Bikes. Haro Backtrail X3, $569 at Hadley's. Haro SX24, $899 at Hadley's. We have it cheap in the US.