yeah, i figured as much. i've been having a hell of a difficult time finding decent inexpensive 36h clincher rims for my D/A 10mm hubs on ebay, but there's lots of cheap nos tubular rims. i may just have to suck it up and get new deep v's thru the lbs...

(off topic: cyclorat, i think i have one of your miyata's siblings. did you get yours from a canadian named dave pendon?)