Hey, I'm Steve. Live in Palos Verdes and do most of my riding around that area. A couple years ago, I successfully rationalized my way into buying a Ti Carl Strong frame, and built it up w/Chorus. I doubt that my questionable fitness and meager riding skills do the frame justice, but, being a clyde, it's great to have a bike that's stiff in the BB yet doesn't rattle fillings loose on those long rides. It's nice to see P.V. and some of its climbs mentioned here. Ganado seems to be a favorite, deservedly. Those that like Ganado may want to try Crownview (off P.V. Drive East) or Silver Arrow (off Silver Spur) if they haven't already. There's some 15% and above on both of those. Hope to see you out there.