Well, this weekend I'm not doing the long climbing rides as I have obligations both days. So, I'm riding both Sat/Sun, starting in the dark. This is so I can be done before noon both days. As for the AC ride that I hope you'll join on, we are mulling over Oct/Nov dates. I'm going to get that thread up and going and I hope you, Cyn, Asia, Travis, Laura, Karen and the rest of the Vegas beautiful ones will join.