Originally Posted by
brianmcg123
I thought I would like the B-17 with no creaking much better,
The B-17 develops its own particular type of creak, actually. As the leather breaks in and the saddle develops some flex, the rails will flex at the clamp to the seatpost and the seat will creak as you hammer on the pedals or go over bumpy terrain and bounce on the saddle. A little bit of grease on the rails will stop the creaking.