Originally Posted by Underwear Nazi
Cap, Cap, Cap...
You are making this much too difficult. Try seeing things my way...in black and white.
There are three categories of clothing: outerwear, underwear and just plain wear....
...The category of just plain wear includes shirts, pants, kilts, skirts, dresses, bike shorts and jerseys. Of these, kilts and bicycle shorts are designed to be worn without underwear. No one cares much what you wear under the others.
Underwear Nazi
Making difficult concepts clear
So if outerwear cannot become plain wear and underwear cannot become outer or plain wear, can plain wear become something different?
For instance if you wear two or more layers of pants and shirts, does one become either outer or underwear or does it just make you a skier 40 years behind the times?
Another might be like my case, if your choosen type of plainwear, in this case bike shorts, isn't suitable for conditions, like working in a lumber mill or similer factory, and you don a less desirable type of plainwear over it, like denim jeans, is the layer of plainwear that is mandated by conditions considered outerwear, while the more desirable plainwear underneath remains plainwear, or how would this work?