Originally Posted by
666pack
i suggest the owner of the second bike pictured grows like a foot or two and gets a longer top tube.
hey all. i'm the owner of that bike. i'm 6'2", how tall are you 666pack?

. the TT is 53.5/54ish. its a combo of the rake and headtube angle in addition to the top tube that give it overlap. but even so, the overlap is about the same as the picture above mine. here is a pic better depicting my bike's overlap: