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Old 10-06-07 | 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Landgolier
The drivetrain. Nothing is turning per se, the relevant phenomenon is squirm. Reverse threads wouldn't help. Also, http://yarchive.net/bike/cranks.html
And again I ask....then why don't right cranks fall off as often as left ones? Does not this "squirm" keep the right side tight while helping to work the left loose?

And why do nutted spindles shed crankarms more readily than bolted styles? More friction in the threads to counteract the squirm?

JB lost me with his sloppy science when it came to the whole tie and solder issue. He did a one-time static test (on an object that functions in a very dynamic way) then ruled out-of-hand with insufficient data that T&S couldn't possibly help because the spokes don't move at the cross. Riiiight. Tell that to someone who owns a wheel with lots of miles and has grooves worn at the crossings that the spokes don't move. You can call it "micro-fretting" but the fact is that there is movement there. Just because JB couldn't figure it out doesn't mean it doesn't exist. There's no way he could've gotten away with that level of slop in his day job(s). He also has a very defensive and arrogantly demeaning tone when challenged. I find that unprofessional at best.

OK....back to cranks.....

If it were just squirm, left and right cranks would be falling off in an "equal opportunity" fashion. But they don't. What mysterious adhesive quality shall we now ascribe to right cranks? I'm sure JB has a neat word for it, and a snide comment for those who don't immediately agree with him.
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