thank you for all of your help. it is a decent frame, and although i was really hoping it was italian i kind of figured it was made in asia. with the campy super record parts i have for it will be a lot like me, half japanese half italian. i have a 16 pound giant for racing, so i'm just building this for a fun project. it's currently red but i want to get it powdercoated the bianchi celeste. hopefully i can get new decals from bianchi.