Once again, being the OP, I am somewhat surprised by the subject that came out of this thread. I was looking for standards, I got a discussion on having goals. I actually find this odd. Most of the people that disdain goals actually have described their goals on this thread. Is there something that worries people about admitting their goals. Are they afraid of failing? Who knows? Ceratinly I do not know. I do know that I cannot imagine living without goals. I cannot imagine not being able to admit my goals, for whatever reason. I say that you would not go through the pain of pedaling up a hill if you did not have a goal.