Wow- great description, LoCel - thanks! Sounds like different turf than what we got- here it's up-down-up-down... no 15 minute climbs here! It'll be a nice change of pace. And thanks for the offer to show us around - we'll be in lateish of Fri, so it sounds like we won't cross paths. We'd be up for joining another group for a ride, if anyone else is riding Kanawha on Sat or Sun morning.