Man, youre making me jealous with you talk of your new b-17. I ordered a B-17 special(the green one), back on the 25th of september, off of the E-bay. After suffering through the vagaries of two postal systems and Canada customs, I STILL don't have my damn saddle. I'm dieing to try it out as I've heard so many good things about Brooks saddles in general. I've got my little tub of proofide waiting to go and my bike is ready too. Just wish they would hurry up and deliver the damn thing already.