I just found this frame builder... does anyone know much about them? The website is a bit sparse but it does include some very appealing prices for the touring frameset... This would solve my bike frame search! Im very much excited, and am going to call the two closest "dealers" tomorrow.

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homep...n/Marbikes.htm

seems im looking at an oudated site (should have figured from the url)... im going to send them and email... becuase this site looks alot different http://www.marinoni.qc.ca/EN/Bikes/Touring/Turismo.htm