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Old 10-19-07 | 11:41 AM
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Six jours
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Yawn. Your stretches are beyond common logic.
And you're trying to personalize this. You're also the one trying to tell me that an Olympic quality .22 single shot rifle is a weapon, so I think you should quit with the "logic" bit.

Consider a firearm. Why was it built? By construction intent, I meant the gun, not an olympian's rifle. To fire a projectile that would kill, injure or maim.
You still haven't addresed the point that attributing intent to an inanimate object is silly. I mean, the first pointed and sharpened piece of metal may have been intended, by its maker, to kill, but that doesn't automatically mean that all knives are weapons and anyone who says otherwise is being illogical.

Moreover, "an Olympian's rifle" is a "gun", which frankly is all it should take for a reasonable person to realize that "guns are weapons" is an innacurate statement. And again, even if we accept the silly premise that the intent of the original design must remain the sole intent for every other similar object made forever and ever, then I'd suggest you take your firework down to the local firework range and put up a fuss over all the people calling their fireworks by any other name -- not to mention using them for any other purpose.

Shooting for target reasons and more specialized firearms may not be designed primarilly as weapons, but they are guns and what was the original purpose of a gun?
Eating for hunger reasons and more specialized cutlery may not be designed as weapons, but they are knives and what was the original purpose of a knife?

And again, they are what 2% of manufactured guns? If you want to call those guns tools, I won't disagree, but the other 98% are clearly more weapon than tool.
So all guns are weapons, except for the ones that aren't, and anyway, the ones that aren't are a minority so guns are weapons. Tell me some more about this "logic" that you keep bringing up.

If you can't acknowledge that you ought to go back and retake stats and logic.
Piss off.

Again, I'm a gun owner, but this whole notion of guns being tools not weapons defies logic. It's the NRA's attempt to rebrand a gun's image in the populous and lawmaker. They take the term in use by the minority and try to apply it to the majority.
Actually, the "guns = weapons" paradigm is a favorite among the gun-ban set, and is the genesis of the "Well, actually, relatively few of us are using guns as weapons" argument from the pro-gunners. I've had this same discussion nearly verbatim with a number of rabidly anti-gun folks, and they nearly always get angry and personal too. You're not even the first guy to claim that "If you don't get it, you just don't know how to think right!".
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