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Old 10-23-07, 02:42 PM
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DocRay
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goes like this for padding:

pro>strider>stratos>evolution

Composit has no padding, just leather, and the carbons have nada.

Composit is like the Toupe, which feels like a hammer bashing your sitbones. Pro is too squidgy for me.

you really need to try these in a shop, or resell quickly through ebay.

the colored carbons are cool looking, but way overpriced.