Originally Posted by
MotoMan
...snip... My beef with Riv is not with their frames, but with the affordability factor. I wish I could get one of their frames, but at their prices my wife would be on my butt in sticker shock, crying their goes the kids college tuition.... GP needs to work on more affordable frames. He has started in that direction with the Bleriot, almost making it affordable to buy the frame and build it up. He needs to get a similar 700cc road bike at a lower price start. ...snip...
I'm not really sure why he would do that. Surly makes some pretty decent steel bikes for the lower price point end of the market. A LHT or Cross Check frame can be purchased and you can "go Rivendell-ish" on the parts you hang on it. You'll end up with a great bike at a reasonable price.