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Old 10-25-07 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by gosmsgo
Give me a break. Do you stop (foot down) for stop signs?
gosmsgo - I agree that a majority of cyclists break traffic laws in obvious ways, but I also agree a majority of motorists do as well. Cyclists mostly break the law by rolling thru stop signs (and to a lesser degree red lights).

I see more cyclists go relatively fast (10-15mph) thru stop signs than I see motorists at this same speed. But most if not all motorist also do not stop at stop signs unless they have to, but will roll thru at 5mph or so. Some motorists do go thru at 10-15mph, but fewer percentage than cyclist at that higher speed. That makes the cyclist rate of not stopping at stop signs look higher.

Also foot down is not legally required for a stop. Per AZ law:
"Stop", if required, means complete cessation from movement."

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