i don't see the problem with anything willypilgrim is saying,if you put in a larger context. let me put it another way--if we can protect oursselves and our communities, we don't need the cops. it's not a tough guy thing, talking about ****ing up people who are, say, raping someone. it's a small part of a larger picture that involves actual communities and working together, cooperation and mutual aid and mutual respect and looking out for one another so that the people can protect themselves rather than being, as one poster said earlier "sheeple" and waiting for someone else to come protect them--thereby also creating the opportunity to control them.

if we can protect ourselves and our communities, we don't need the cops.