Ric, you said that any excercise would be beneficial for sedentary people. My friend who only does short rides of the 5-10 mile variety also runs and lifts. The lifting has benefited his cycling as well as the running. The lifting gave him the extra strength in the legs to complete accelerations uphill, and the running helped trim him down and improve his endurance. Ric, I am tired of simply arguing. You have your respectable opinion and I have mine. I am not a professional coach, but I don't think I would want a coach that isn't willing to explore other areas of opportunity than simply his own. I do know that I log over 120 miles on my bike weekly, and I lift at least 4 days a week. That includes box squats, squats, straight leg deadlifts, and the like. As for the arguing, it's over. I dislike the squabling over two different opinions simply because they find eachother unacceptable. How about this? You respect my opinion, and I conversely respect yours?