@chunkyb: you have the chronology wrong - campagnolo is like mac, the first, the best and the original. but campy got lazy and was copied and surpassed by in some respects by shimano ie windows. Mac/campy reformed and got better and now, despite lessend market share is the choice of fewer but more discerning/economically indulgent people. SRAM is like linux, the newcomer of uncertain origin that is really coming into its own, if you are performance minded. And this from a current mac user since 98 and a campagnolo rider since ~1979, who is riding his first shimano bike under duress but actually seriously coveting SRAM RED. Aw heck I'd ride Force... if apple did not exist it would be up to microsoft to invent them (applogies to voltaire)
shimano is losing theire edge and grasping - new DA carbon chainset.. ugh. the new wheels are better than the last set, cracks in the armour
Last edited by JFO-NY; 11-11-07 at 01:38 AM.