This is a very interesting thread. It has made me want to experience pain again. Last year, I had pain with riding with a club and trying to keep up with the guys. This year, I have been lazy. Got a little glimpse of pain on this year's RAGBRAI. I raced a couple of guys on different hills. You are all correct, you must embrace pain. It is easy to get into a routine where even the slightest inconvenience seems like an obstacle. Too often on this board, people are trying to make cycling a sofa sport. It is gonna hurt and hurt really does feel good. Pain is weakness leaving the body.