Originally Posted by Maelstrom
60 degrees isn't steep. I was using it as an example...60 degrees was something I was using to relate to above rider

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yes it is tough. I know some sections when I was riding, felt like 90 degrees...but to go back they might be 70 or 80...definately changes (especially if I mess with the geometry of my bike and change the HA)
Hey Maelstrom...I like reading your posts, you've always got a good perspective on stuff. I must admit I'm pretty skeptical about a bike making it down a 80 degree slope that is much longer than 5-10 meters or so. Are you 'fo' real' on that? If you have access to a cheap clinometer, maybe you could double-check for us.
I mean, get out a protractor and draw 80 degree slope to flat on a page...that's pretty damn steep!
I'm just sayin'...