I have found BD a pleasure to do business with. What is your basis for this statement? I bought the Bottecchia with Record Gruppo for $1500 and the Bottecchia Carbon frame for $470 including fork. Excellent products at excellent prices, both.

I've ridden quality steel frames since 1966 and find my new carbon frame smooth and quiet. It handles nicely and is stiffer than my Raleigh, Ron Cooper and Bianchi, but not at all too stiff. I do not race, but ride around 130 miles most weeks at 17 mph, solo. The terrain here is moderately hilly. I've experienced no hand or saddle numbness or pain.