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Old 11-14-07 | 07:28 PM
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mr_macgee
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Originally Posted by kmart
+1 to going with better tubing over lugs.

I'm a big fan of Prestige since that's what my fixed gear is on, mainly because it's really light! for a steel frame. Is Columbus Zona lighter? What about stuff by Reynolds?
Currently Reynolds is very expenisive when putting new orders due to (UK) Currency exchange, probably Columbus as well unless there is already a large stock of it sitting somewhere in Asia.

My guess True Temper and Tange are priced better, I would go with True Temper as they have more up to date tubing specs. Prestige is nice but it's been around for ages, I think I made my first frame out of it in 1987 and don't think it's really changed since. Prestige & Columbus were the first to offer ovalized tubsets. I would like to think there are better & more modern tubing since then for the same price.

Yes; the Zona is lighter, an 8 piece tubset for a 54cm road bike is 1300gr, Life is a touch lighter but very strong $$, both prefer tig welding but then again who's fillet brazing track frames these days and that's where the prestige shined, also with lugs.

True temper has OX Platinum & S3 which are very good tubes, can't go wrong with them if designed & spec'd out properly. The Tubes mentioned above have great chacteristics for comfort, weight & strength. Way better than all the other tubes you see being used currently on sub $1000 SS frames. These tubes are are very thin and need tight manufacturing tolerances which raises the cost.

Hope this helps
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