Wow, Carleton. I guess because no one's ever successfully converted a garbage bike into something useful, we should all be ashamed of trying--oh wait, YOU said you've converted lots of frames. So then only people with less experience than you are barred from converting vintage frames? I guess there's no place for them to learn... it's WAY better to condescend people over the internet and have them ride stock bikes from their LBS for the rest of their lives than have them try something new and maybe make a few mistakes.