I've had horrible luck with Forte brand tires in the past and will not use them ever again. Two different 700x23c tires blew off the rim on me. Even the mechanic at the store where I bought them told me that they are not good tires. I've removed and mounted many many different tires through the years over tens of thousands of miles ridden and NEVER had this happen with any other tire...EVER. Is it coincidence that it happened on both the front and rear wheels on the same bike after replacing both tires with Forte brand tires? I think not. They are garbage...end of story.