Originally Posted by
time bandit
would be? i'll build you one for 400 bucks. its not a hard thing to do.

The bags and panniers, plus lights and fenders alone would break that bank.
I have a couple of crappy city bikes with racks already, thanks. I mean a dedicated tourer with a long top tube, really long chainstays (so I won't hit the bags), and all the braze-ons.
More like $800 (good luck)-$4000 in reality.